tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26746300.post8811147993387337266..comments2024-02-27T04:39:38.457-05:00Comments on with comb & razor: Won't get fooled again!Comb & Razorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11912912211584098914noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26746300.post-80689254418074640842007-11-03T19:38:00.000-05:002007-11-03T19:38:00.000-05:00Bay Radical:thanks for commenting... always great ...Bay Radical:<BR/><BR/>thanks for commenting... always great to have you swing by! <BR/><BR/>hope you've found some new stuff to get into, too... just let me know if you need any further info on any of the music posted here.<BR/><BR/>Earball:<BR/><BR/>yeah... it's amazing when you think about how far the Desco/Soul Fire/Daptone crew has come in the past ten years and the role they play in the resurgence of afrobeat. right now there are sooooo many afrobeat bands... i'm learning of new ones every week! and they all more or less spring forth from The Daktaris.<BR/><BR/>Jon:<BR/><BR/>yeah... i like that firewall image! i guess these hoaxes are healthy, when you get down to it... being a cutting edge hipster can be exhausting work, and sometimes it's cool to fall for pranks like this... just to remind yourself that it's not <I>that</I> serious!Comb & Razorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11912912211584098914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26746300.post-76317645437247450792007-11-03T03:05:00.000-05:002007-11-03T03:05:00.000-05:00This is a fantastic post. I know nothing about any...This is a fantastic post. I know nothing about any of these musical genre's or hoaxes, and still, I read the whole thing and listened to a bunch of the songs. <BR/><BR/>Thank you!Bay Radicalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00655591736263258814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26746300.post-51928372540316793082007-10-30T11:42:00.000-05:002007-10-30T11:42:00.000-05:00In a world awash with insipid commercialism compet...In a world awash with insipid commercialism competing for every bit of our attention, I'll take the smart and clever any day. And it takes smart and clever to pull off a good hoax. (fake bombs, by the way, may be clever, but they're not smart).<BR/><BR/>I liked the Daktaris CD as soon as I heard it, and when I finally found out the real story, it didn't diminish the music. Now I see it as a key bit of history in the resurgence of Afrobeat, particularly in the US. <BR/><BR/>Sure I like knowing the true story, but isn't music is all about telling stories and creating narrative and emotional alternate realities? So why must this storytelling stop at the CD notes? If you can pull it off, go ahead and fool me again!<BR/><BR/>dj earball<BR/><A HREF="http://www.soundroots.org" REL="nofollow">SoundRoots.org</A>SpinTheGlobehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18305716637990989057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26746300.post-84918305334141107012007-10-29T08:53:00.000-05:002007-10-29T08:53:00.000-05:00These hoaxers are like hackers. They find a way in...These hoaxers are like hackers. They find a way in past your firewall but at least they only dent your own self image as a discerning and hip person, and not wipe your brain. <BR/>I think the mingering mike thing is just too perfectly formed to fit every art groupie hipster's wet dream to be really true. I'm with you on that. Too conveniently marketable somehow. Someone's having a laugh at us, and we deserve it. Jeez, it's tough being an Art Groupie Hipster these days ;-)<BR/>Jonjonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12995957960962942674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26746300.post-808388345362645052007-10-21T15:02:00.000-05:002007-10-21T15:02:00.000-05:00oh, no doubt, Frank... i've long been a fan of the...oh, no doubt, Frank... i've long been a fan of their work too, and i know how real they are about the music. i didn't mean to suggest that the "is it vintage or not" hoaxes made them any less so, of course... they were fun little pranks, which for me were very educational, too!Comb & Razorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11912912211584098914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26746300.post-52713909633759297182007-10-21T14:04:00.000-05:002007-10-21T14:04:00.000-05:00I have been a longtime fan of the Desco-SoulFire-D...I have been a longtime fan of the Desco-SoulFire-Daptone clan. I am very happy that they finally begin to get the recognition that they deserve. I have seen them play wherever there was or wasnt an audience in the mid to late 90s and no-one in their right mind would want to seriously doubt their integrity, quality of musicianship or sincerity. To mask some of their early releases as vintage might have just been a joke or a try to fool beatdiggers into using their stuff -who cares. Before music was reduced to CD format and nowadays mp3s and ringtones, a record was something mythical. You bought it, went at home, put it on the turntable and started looking at the cover from all sides and angles. Now a record can either carry important information or help you to escape or indulge yourself in a phantasy. Good records do both of the above.Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11971992442874225933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26746300.post-16145766533420602442007-10-20T19:46:00.000-05:002007-10-20T19:46:00.000-05:00Wes:thanks for the kind words, and thanks for tipp...Wes:<BR/><BR/>thanks for the kind words, and thanks for tipping me off to the Waxer book--i've just added it to my reading list!<BR/><BR/>yeah, from what i can tell, champeta <I>is</I> real... like, i know that there <I>is</I> a sound system-based dance genre called champeta that is associated with Afro-Colombian identity much in the same way that, say, baile funk functions in Rio. what i find myself suspicious about, though, is the degree to which the "hard" African and Afro-Caribbean popular music influences come into play in the music people are actually dancing to in Barranquilla as opposed to the stuff a Paris-based label like Palenque puts out. <BR/><BR/>i think an interesting project would be tracing the path through which these African records reached Colombia in the first place... i think i heard that it was via sailors and stuff...Comb & Razorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11912912211584098914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26746300.post-90631767985650892482007-10-20T19:15:00.001-05:002007-10-20T19:15:00.001-05:00This comment has been removed by the author."Big Al" Maghrebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06198816824921336398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26746300.post-25223430904690673172007-10-20T19:15:00.000-05:002007-10-20T19:15:00.000-05:00Great, great post!!By the way, I hear ya on that c...Great, great post!!<BR/><BR/>By the way, I hear ya on that champeta issue. On paper, champeta totally sounds like some cold fusion experiment by deep-crated hipsters, but here's something from Lise Waxer's book on salsa in Cali, The City of Musical Memory that gives me hope: "Among Afro-Colombian inhabitants of Cartagena and Barranquilla the adoption of soukous, Afro-pop, mbqanga, soca, zouk, and other African and Afro-Caribbean genres into the style known locally as champeta or terapia has become an emblem of black cosmopolitanism on Colombia’s Atlantic coast since the 1980s. Significantly, champeta emerged after Afro-Costeño (Atlantic/Caribbean coastal Colombians) forms were appropriated (as música tropical) into national mestizo culture, providing a new vehicle for expressing a distinct Afro-Colombian subjectivity and experience."<BR/><BR/>So, I'm thinking that while heads probably aren't flipping out to Mahlathini records on the streets of Cartagena, champeta is a consciously Pan-African deal that's maybe more "organic" or "authentic" than the odds say it should be.<BR/><BR/>Sorry for the long-winded post. Your blog is the hands-down awesomest!"Big Al" Maghrebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06198816824921336398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26746300.post-70774991468745576612007-10-20T13:02:00.000-05:002007-10-20T13:02:00.000-05:00wow... that sounds like a fascinating paper, Avoca...wow... that sounds like a fascinating paper, Avocado Kid!<BR/><BR/>i'm yet to sit down and fully read <I>Simulacra and Simulation,</I> but the general ideas that i've gleaned from it seem to be increasingly relevant to our postmodern reality (or maybe i should say "reality.")Comb & Razorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11912912211584098914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26746300.post-71854478591772210672007-10-20T12:39:00.000-05:002007-10-20T12:39:00.000-05:00Great post! I think about this stuff all the time ...Great post! I think about this stuff all the time too. Actually in college I wrote a paper about desco/daptone funk in relation to Baudrillard's notion of "the simulation".avocado kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01106580414233962584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26746300.post-41031264771832299162007-10-19T12:50:00.000-05:002007-10-19T12:50:00.000-05:00that is very comforting indeed, Matt!like, i know ...that is very comforting indeed, Matt!<BR/><BR/>like, i <I>know</I> i wasn't the only one who fell for it, but i like hearing other people admit to it too, so i feel less stupid about it!<BR/><BR/>because looking back on it now, it seems so transparent... how could i <I>ever</I> have believed it?Comb & Razorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11912912211584098914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26746300.post-68880889189868203982007-10-19T12:31:00.000-05:002007-10-19T12:31:00.000-05:00Yup I was also taken by the Marvin Pontiak spin......Yup I was also taken by the Marvin Pontiak spin...matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14742182508844340006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26746300.post-92210116140847502432007-10-19T11:48:00.000-05:002007-10-19T11:48:00.000-05:00definitely check out Caetano... i've never seen hi...definitely check out Caetano... i've never seen himself, but i hear his shows are definitely great experiences.<BR/><BR/>besides, he's just one of those guys that you want to say "yeah, i saw him live back in..."Comb & Razorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11912912211584098914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26746300.post-77167919244630030102007-10-19T11:27:00.000-05:002007-10-19T11:27:00.000-05:00Yea I feel the same. Mythology is important, if an...Yea I feel the same. Mythology is important, if anything it draws your attention on the artist.<BR/><BR/>Look at MIA, I don't their would be as much hype with her music if she and the media didn't mythologize her experiences.<BR/><BR/>BTW Caetano is coming to town, should I check him out?skateboardjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09753865039802875190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26746300.post-54818829281240760012007-10-19T11:00:00.000-05:002007-10-19T11:00:00.000-05:00yeah... i like both music and mythology. and i'm n...yeah... i like both music and mythology. and i'm not embarrassed to admit that i think they might be of near-equal importance.<BR/><BR/>i've never been one of those "it's all about the music and just the music, <I>maaaaaan!</I>" purists... context is everything.<BR/><BR/>which is one of the reasons Os Mutantes and the other Tropicalistas have such an enduring legend: it's not like they were the first musicians in Brazil to play rock & roll... but they had a much more interesting mythology than ie-ie-ie pioneers like Erasmo Carlos.Comb & Razorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11912912211584098914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26746300.post-84989919577118953222007-10-19T10:50:00.000-05:002007-10-19T10:50:00.000-05:00That's the question that's been bugging me. Do yo...That's the question that's been bugging me. Do you like the music or the mythology of the music more.<BR/><BR/>Sometimes I wonder if I would like Os Mutantes as much if they were some acid dropping teens who played with Gilberto Gil.skateboardjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09753865039802875190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26746300.post-69971371885317513052007-10-18T18:56:00.000-05:002007-10-18T18:56:00.000-05:00Indeed it is all that you say... I'm sure that the...Indeed it is all that you say... I'm sure that the retrofetishists would appreciate your vintage vernacular, as well!Comb & Razorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11912912211584098914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26746300.post-63862364612985939022007-10-18T18:14:00.000-05:002007-10-18T18:14:00.000-05:00Fake or not, the Daktaris' version of"Give it up o...Fake or not, the Daktaris' version of<BR/>"Give it up or Turn it Loose" is uptight, outtasite and in the groove! (as we used to say in the '60s)<BR/><BR/>Great post.John B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00603354267259344759noreply@blogger.com